Not much response to Lynn's comments about 'down-sizing and giving to the poor'???
In all my years I have yet to see the believers selling land, property and possessions and laying the proceeds at the feet of the apostles to distribute among those that have need.
If this was too start happening on a sunday morning instead of the usual performance then surely the world would be convinced of Jesus because they would see our love for one another.
I'm not holding my breath though...
DoG
DoG have you yourself sold all your land, property and possessions for distribution among those that have need? If you have can you share about your experience and how God met your needs after that?
I know a couple who once sold all (or most) of their furniture because the wife felt that their was too much of an attachment and wanted to see if they could break that attachment. They rented a house for flexibility in their ministry life so they could move quickly if so led and so far as I know still haven't decided to buy a house. I don't know what they did with the proceeds of the furniture sell off.
Hi there,
Maybe if there were genuine Apostles this would be more commonly seen.
I suggest start with a few close believers and start to live what we read in Acts.
Maybe the world will then have something to see?
I wonder if this is what we should be doing?
Cant be... could the church have it that wrong??
Blessings,
Carl Emerson.
Well here I am once again lead to post again as this topic has come up - concerning once again the End of days unfolding before us seeing the Prophetic scripture unfolding.
PLEASE READ MATHEW 24
I personally am one that stays away from the SO CALLED - doom amd gloom - Radio Ministries - espically those whom lie and fleece Christ sheep through fear and false promises! false Prophecies!
These truely shall have a day of reconing.
But I felt this video was approapiate here and raises some real issues and how the Lord would have us prepared to take care of our families - for as long as we are able - even under a great depression - and please no relegious spirits here I pray - for reality is reality - and Gods Word is absolute - TRUTH - and yes I know the Lord shall take care of those whom are his - his sons obediant trusting desciples - of Jesus Christ.
I believe he expects us to be in our Prayer closets seeking him for wisdom for these coming days - building an unshakable steadfast relationship with him - and once again helping the poor among us now!
SEEKING HIM - OBEDIEANCE - AND - HELPING THE POOR - is a must.
WARNING IT IS HARD TO WATCH - especially for us who have so much we take for granit.
THIS VIDEO TAKES US BACK TO THE GREAT DEPRESSION - surely looks like a repeat - only this time it is slowly beginning to ready itself to be followed by the Birth Pains Jesus Speaks of in Matthew 24.
PLEASE LET US PRAY ONE FOR THE OTHER - for Wisdom and Understanding.
VIDEO
On account of our national sin before GOD, the trillions our government has mismanaged, along with the insane corruption of the federal reserve, Wall St., corporate and banking greed, I have no doubt that this scenario will repeat itself someday soon.
Hello Andrew,
I am a new member to the sight, but not unfamiliar with it. I've enjoyed your sight very much. I guess this is as good of place as any to post this. Just last night I felt impressed by the Lord and I believe that he has given me a word for his people. For whatever reason, the Lord brought you to mind and this site. So here it is:
Darkness has come upon this Land.
My hand of Judgement has come to purge
my people in preparation for my return.
Wake up oh my people, do not be complacent
any longer, I am here, call out now and I will answer.
For I shall return for a church without spot or wrinkle.
What can make you clean oh church, nothing but my blood,
that alone is sufficient. Cry out my people, for darkness
has come upon the land. Love not the world neither the
things in it. Seek first the Kingdom of God and his
righteousness. Rejoice oh my people, for my return is soon.
God Bless,
Ashley.
DoG have you yourself sold all your land, property and possessions for distribution among those that have need? If you have can you share about your experience and how God met your needs after that?
Hi ER, I have on occasion sold possessions and assets and given the proceeds to the poor among the believers - don't really want to go into details.
When 'living by faith' I have always found the Lord to be very faithful in providing for His family. I have had cash fall out of my personal Bible (no idea how it got there) and received hundreds of pounds through the mail from areas of the country that I've never visited.
When we left full time missions three years ago we sold all of our assets in the foreign country and gave the money to the believing poor. We arrived back in this country as a family of four with very little as a result. Within a few hours we were given a very servicable car and a job was not too far behind. God provides when we need Him too.
I don't think the exhortation of scripture is to sell ALL of our possessions. I don't think God wants us destitute, He just wants us to steward what He has given us appropriately.
IMHO it's not appropriate to pray for God to meet the needs of one of the brethren if there are people of that fellowship driving £30,000 cars and going on two holidays every year.
The example of scripture is that the rich among the believers are ready and willing to forsake their material wealth for the sake of a poorer brother or sister. That is how I read Acts 2: 42-47 anyway.
I am personally convinced that the Lord has provided for every work of His Spirit, be it church planting, missions, out reach, etc. and that the constant pressure upon people called of God to try and raise funds to do what God has called them to do is evidence that the Body at large has misappropriated the resources of God.
As Lynn rightly said we should all be living below our means in order to support our poorer brethren and to fund the work of God's Spirit. There are still hundreds of thousands of people in this world that live in tribal groups who have never had a single gospel witness, nor is there any current strategy to reach many of these people.
With that in mind God's people going on a skiing holiday or for two weeks on the beach is an affront. And we wonder why the presence of God is not dwelling among His people??!
Maybe if there were genuine Apostles this would be more commonly seen.
I suggest start with a few close believers and start to live what we read in Acts.
Maybe the world will then have something to see?
I wonder if this is what we should be doing?
Cant be... could the church have it that wrong??
Couldn't agree more 'thos', just got to find some like minded people...
DoG
I feel that I'm "like minded" with you DoG, do you feel the Lord telling you to come and live in "quakey" Christchurch, New Zealand? :-)
I have had a vision for resurrection community since 1974.
Still waiting...
Carl Emerson.
Wow that is a long time Carl! I was born in 74!
Don't forget that for the past so many years many of our jobs have been shipped over seas and a few weeks ago almost a million applicants applied for 60,000 jobs at McDonald's nationwide. That's almost 16 applicants for each job.
More and more college degrees are becoming more and more worthless unless they are in certain growth industries. Then people who get these jobs may be forced to relocate out of town, out of state or even out of the country.
World Economy Collapse explained in 3 minutes
Heart breaking 60 minutes piece on the rise of homeless families.
Amen Carl to what you said above which I quote below... :-)
Maybe if there were genuine Apostles this would be more commonly seen.
If we genuinely want to Glorify God He will provide us with everything we need to accomplish this as He is Jealous for His own Glory...
For He gives the Spirit without measure
God bless you brother,
Andrew
Major economists of the Keynesian Philosophy were stating the same predictions at the same time as Strom.
Of course they did not tie it with scripture or the judgments of God.
All I know is that the Lord has told me to get rid of 'unnecessary' possessions, either by giving them away or throwing them out, pay off all my debt, and generally aim to live frugally. As part of that I've installed rainwater tanks to provide water for a vegetable garden, and solar electricity to insulate myself against rises in power costs.
The next step possibly is to install more water tanks suitable for drinking purposes and further solar panels to generate all of my own household power. But in the meantime I'm always on the look-out for solar powered devices of every kind.
I don't feel lead to go for full self-sufficiency as yet. Its VERY expensive to reach that level if you aim to replicate your existing life style, but you can go a very long way towards 'modest comfort' survival level in your own home for a low outlay overall.
I'm fortunate that I live in Australia, because of the generally clear skies and plenty of sunshine even in winter months, so solar power is
more viable.
I don't believe the Lord wants me to isolate myself from the general non-christian community, just live frugally and reduce dependency on public services as much as is practical without huge initial outlays, but otherwise be 'normal', and share with others in need as lead to do so. But at the same time I'm currently swotting up on how to refrigerate food without a refrigerator, solar ovens and the like, in case such things would be 'handy' in the future.
Happy to pass on what tips I can to anyone who wants them.
Outcasts: Tonight Tens Of Thousands Of Formerly Middle Class Americans Will Be Sleeping In Their Cars, In Tent Cities Or On The Streets
Including video clip of police using box cutters to ruin tents of homeless people.
At the beginning of next year, the extended unemployment benefits that have been helping the unemployed during this economic downturn will expire. Up to now, many unemployed Americans have been able to enjoy up to 99 weeks of unemployment benefits. Now that is coming to an end.
awillis5,
I would like to welcome you to the forum community.I am a recent arrival and still finding my way around.
Please stay.not just pop in and go.I found you contribution to be right there with my own understanding.
You will find the discussions a little heated at times,sensitivities get touched,we are human after all.
We seem to find a way of working differences out.Its a great site with lots of people searching for more and more truth.
Be sure to read the ground rules.Unknowingly I think I may have got very close to breaching them once.I was accused of it by another member and it came as a real shock.
Yours in Christ.
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