1. marilynk
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   I get news letters from Derek Prince Ministries I would like to share with you. They are sent in sections and are long so I will try to didivd it into sections.

   PART I
   V o l u m e X I V , I s s u e 2
   T H E T E A C H I N G L E G A C Y O F D E R E K P R I N C E
   Understanding Your Enemy

   Somewhere in every one of us is a deep longing to make contact with the unknown, with some “higher power”—something greater or wiser or more powerful than ourselves. This is true at all levels, from the teenage girl reading her horoscope, to the witch doctor in some remote tribe who has never seen a white man, to the scientist probing outer space and seeking to discover the secrets of the universe.

   It was God who placed this longing within us, but His archenemy, Satan, has devised a way to divert seekers into deceptive, evil systems that bring them into bondage to himself. These deceptive systems can take countless different forms, but the generic name for them all is the occult. The word occult is derived from a Latin word that means “concealed.” The power operating through occult
   practices comes from Satan, but most people caught up in them do not know this. They have been enticed by claims that make them appear highly desirable.
   Scripture calls turning away from the one true God to
   false gods “spiritual adultery.” Thus, the Bible’s warnings
   against immorality and adultery also apply to involvement
   with the occult. The “strange woman” described in
   Proverbs vividly depicts the lure of the occult. The tragic
   end of those who permit themselves to be enticed and
   deceived by her is described in Proverbs 7:25–27:
   Do not let your heart turn aside to her ways,
   Do not stray into her paths;For she has cast down many wounded, And all who were slain by her were strong men.
   Her house is the way to hell, Descending to the chambers of death. Scripture emphasizes that the victims of this “strange
   woman” are strong men. Satan hates such men. Strong men become vulnerable when they place their confidence in their own strength and in their past successes.

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2. marilynk
   Member

   PART 2
   Two Main Branches
   The two main branches of the occult are identified in Scripture as divination and sorcery. Divination provides knowledge through supernatural means about people, events and situations. Frequently it predicts future events.
   The contemporary terms for this are fortunetelling, psychic predicting and extrasensory perception (ESP). A clear example is offered by the slave girl in Acts 16:16–22, who was said to be “possessed with a spirit of divination.” Interestingly, the Greek merely says “she had a python spirit.” In classical Greek culture the python was often associated with the practice of divination or fortunetelling. The modern term
   for such a person is psychic. This girl was the first person in Philippi to discern the identity of Paul and Silas. “These men are the servants of the Most High God,” she cried, “who proclaim to us the way of salvation” (v. 17). Everything she
   said was true, yet her knowledge came from a demon. When the
   demon was expelled, she lost the ability to tell fortunes and her masters lost their source of income. This is what makes fortunetelling so deceptive and dangerous. A person who has a python spirit can actually channel supernatural knowledge concerning the past or future. This measure of truth is the
   bait on Satan’s occult hook by which he seeks to capture and
   enslave his victims. Most people want to know what the future holds. Fortunetelling caters to this desire. But God
   requires us to “walk by faith, not by sight” (2 Corinthians 5:7), not knowing what the future holds but trusting His unfailing faithfulness. There may, however, be times when
   God will give us some sovereign revelation concerning the future, without our desiring or seeking it. When He takes the initiative, the result will serve His purposes. Another way many people are exposed to divination is through horoscopes. Casually scanning “your” horoscope in the newspaper with an unguarded mind can expose you to demonic influence. Here again, many Christians are deceived. They consider such
   activities harmless, not recognizing the snare. I ministered to a Christian woman once who needed deliverance from a spirit of divination. She could not understand how such a spirit could have entered her. As I questioned her, she eventually acknowledged that she read her horoscope occasionally in the daily newspaper. She was shocked to
   realize that she had opened herself to a demon of divination.
   Another potential door-opener for demons is involvement in the
   martial arts. The martial arts originated in cultures permeated with idolatry and demonic activity. The other main branch through which the occult operates is sorcery. It uses various means to make an impact on the physical senses. Some of its tools are drugs, potions, charms, amulets, magic,
   spells and incantations. Revelation describes two endtime
   judgments of God by which some sections of humanity will be
   killed. Then it closes by saying that the rest of mankind “did not repent of their murders or their sorceries
   or their sexual immorality or their thefts” (Revelation 9:20–21). The Greek word translated “sorceries” means literally “drugs.” The NIV renders it “magic arts.” The evil
   actions here associated with sorcery are murders, sexual immorality and theft. Often addiction to drugs opens the door to these other evils.

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3. marilynk
   Member

   PART 3
   In Deuteronomy 18:10–12 (NIV), the Lord declares His attitude
   toward occult involvement: Let no one be found among you
   who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices
   divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is
   detestable to the LORD. . . .The word translated “detestable”
   is the strongest word in the Hebrew language for what the Lord
   hates and rejects. God places such people in the same category as those who sacrifice their children to a pagan deity. It is hard for our culture to realize how intensely
   God hates all these occult practices. False Religion False religion is closely related to the occult. Both promise what
   appeals to us all—peace, power, knowledge, access to God. They
   claim to direct us to the light, but they actually entice us into darkness. How can we protect ourselves? In John 10:9 Jesus said, “I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will
   be saved.” Again He said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me” (John 14:6). Many different doors lead into the realm of the
   supernatural. But there is only one door that leads to the supernatural realm of God. That door is Jesus. Those who go through any other door can enter a supernatural realm—but it is the realm of Satan, not of the one true God. Satan will do all the damage he can to humanity through ideologies such as atheism or humanism, but false religion is an infinitely more powerful tool in his hands. To this very hour, the great majority of the human race is enslaved by false religion.
   As with other forms of the occult, it is impossible to list all the forms of false religion currently being practiced. But
   here are five of the main features that characterize religions as false:

   1. Religions that acknowledge a
   plurality of gods. The early church was surrounded by a polytheistic culture, but in 1 Corinthians 8:5–6
   Paul defined the Christian position: For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

   2. Religions that practice idol worship. Idolatry is the first
   specific sin forbidden in the Ten Commandments and the one that carries the heaviest penalties (see Exodus 20:3–5).

   3. Religions teaching that human beings ultimately can become
   gods. This was the original temptation offered by Satan in the
   Garden of Eden: “You will be like God [or gods]” (Genesis 2:5). This promise contains an inherent self-contradiction. God, who has created all things, including the human race, is Himself uncreated. It is logically
   impossible for man, the created, to become like God, the uncreated. The created can never become uncreated. Nevertheless, this promise of becoming like God has
   appealed to the self-exalting pride of humanity in every generation.

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4. marilynk
   Member

   PART 4

   4. Religions teaching that people can achieve righteousness
   by their own efforts. Again, the appeal is to human pride. Proud people are drawn to religious systems that demand hard,
   unreasonable forms of work and even self-inflicted suffering. The more rigorous the demands, the greater the degree of pride a person feels in fulfilling them.

   5. Religions that offer esoteric knowledge available only to a
   privileged few. Access to this knowledge usually requires some
   special rite of initiation. In the first century, the apostles were warning their followers about this form of deception. It was against this error that Paul warned

   Timothy in 1 Timothy 6:20–21: O Timothy! Guard what was
   committed to your trust, avoiding the profane and idle [or vain] babblings and contradictions of what is falsely called knowledge [gnosis]—by professing it some have strayed concerning the faith.

   Mormonism and Freemasonry are two examples of religions
   whose secrets are revealed only to those who have passed through a stringent process of initiation. Christianity, on the other hand, is open. It has no special process of initiation and no secret rites. The basis of its faith, the
   Bible, is an open book. All are encouraged to study it.
   False religion always appeals in one way or another to human
   pride. The Gospel, on the other hand, emphasizes that we are
   saved by the grace of God, which cannot be earned, but is received only by faith, which God Himself supplies. In Ephesians 2:8–9, Paul says this leaves no room for pride.
   For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. In 1 Corinthians 10:20–21, Paul
   emphasizes that every form of false religion is permeated by demonic power and that Christians must not, therefore, be involved in any way: The things which the Gentiles
   sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons. This brief overview of the occult and false religions reveals just how
   complex it is. There is no simple way to define or describe it. You might compare it to an octopus with many tentacles, which it fastens onto its victim. Just as the victim is guarding himself against one tentacle, another seeks to
   fasten onto him from his blind side. If you have been involved in the occult or false religion—even inadvertently or experimentally—God wants you to repent of it, confess it as sin, and seek Christ for forgiveness, cleansing, and release. And to make your break deliberate and clean, any books or other objects connected with the occult or
   false religion should be destroyed.

   Adapted from Derek Prince’s teaching: “They Shall Expel Demons,” available at http://www.DerekPrince.org. further study, we
   recommend Derek’s message: Witchcraft – Public Enemy No. 1
   Reproduction of articles from the DPM Archive for free
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5. mark and susan
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   Mormon satanism from David Icke's article spiritual satanism...(David Icke is not a christian but this info seems reliable)

   So the Mormon religion was founded by Freemasons, uses Freemasonic, Illuminati, and ancient rituals and symbols, and is big into blood atonement and terrible vengeance for revealing the secrets.
   It has all the signs of being a front for Satanism and so it is.
   I have received many testimonies from the victims of Mormon Satanism and mind control and the following story is indicative of all of them. It comes from a woman who was brought up in the Mormon faith in Utah.

   She told me that "most of the early faithful were from the Merovingian bloodline, which is Illuminati" and that the abuse of children was handed down through the generations to create robotic-slaves of trauma-based mind control.

   "They helped each other by abusing each others' children and traumatizing them to split their minds," she said.

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6. mark and susan
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   from David Icke's article spiritual satanism...(David Icke is not a christian but this info seems reliable)

   Dr Loreda Fox is a Christian psychiatrist who has worked with many victims of Satanism and trauma-based mind control or Multiple Personality Disorder.
   She wrote in the Spiritual And Clinical Dimensions Of Multiple Personality Disorder (Books of Sangre de Crista, Salida, Colorado, 1992):

   "Some Satanists have invaded the church as it is the perfect cover for them. They masquerade as angels of light and gravitate towards positions of leadership in order to have more influence. Because much of what they say is sound doctrinaily, they are rarely detected. Most survivors whom I have worked with had Satanist parents who were in high positions in churches; many were pastors."1

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7. marilynk
   Member

   I was raised Mormon. Though the temple ordinance were based on the Masonic seremonies nothing else in the church was based on it that I ever noticed. Also, I had my temple endowments and those stories about threats if you tell som great secret is not true. When you are in the temple you are taken to various room, the first, gives you the new name, the second, you listen to a narative about the creation, they also have a baptismal font that sets on the backs of 12 golden bulls/oxen, they have an alter like you would have a a wedding. Where a coouple kneels when they get married. That is all that is there. No mistisism or hocus pocus. People that say those things when they leave the Mormon church usually left on less then great terms. Their teachings are in error and their doctorines as well. No satanic activity in the chuch. Marilyn

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8. marilynk
   Member

   I agree satan is behind their teachings, however one should not add to the sin to sensationalise the error and draw more attention to their sin. One should pray that they might stumble upon a true messanger from Messiah and know the truth. I am not definding the sin. Why do you think I am not Mormon now? The point of this article is pretty clear. That the only issue that is zoned in on is that sells short the over all message by brother Prince. Marilyn

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9. marilynk
   Member

   The reason I chose this article was because of the concern that has arisen over various types decption in the church.

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10. marilynk
    Member

    Eph 5:11 Have nothing to do with the deeds produced by darkness, but instead expose them,
    Eph 5:12 for it is shameful even to speak of the things these people do in secret.
    Eph 5:13 But everything exposed to the light is revealed clearly for what it is,
    Eph 5:14 since anything revealed is a light. This is why it says, "Get up, sleeper! Arise from the dead, and the Messiah will shine on you!"

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11. marilynk
    Member

    That is so true Michelle. Spiritual wickedness is in the very churches many people attend every Sunday. The part in the article I found of greatest interest for those here is what he said here:

    2. Religions that practice idol worship. Idolatry is the first
    specific sin forbidden in the Ten Commandments and the one that carries the heaviest penalties (see Exodus 20:3–5)

    This is the place the church is right now as they have embraced the traditions and teaching of men holding it in higher esteem then truth. Those things have become idols in the lives of His children and they don't even realize it. It has birth such a great bondage in their lives. That is even more sad to me. They have had the truth were as the others over the generations have not known the truth and in one since fall into the same situation of traditions and tachings how be it false. Behind it all the decetions spoken in to the hearts of man. Marilyn

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12. 4Jesus
    Member

    It is my understanding that there are different sects or groups of Mormons too. Generally we think of a Mormon being those that are involved in the Mormon church in Salt Lake. I could be wrong about this.

    Years ago my husband and I spent some time in Salt Lake. And while there were able to get quite a bit of information from the Christian book stores about this religion. Our obtaining what is supposedly the life of Joseph Smith, who of course was the founder of the Mormon churches, whether now being a part of the one in Salt Lake or not. But there are those groups that also do give their children in marriage at a very young age. Not long ago this was happening. So the stories that this person told may have been entirely true about what some do with their children.

    If the books that we have were the memoirs written by Joseph Smith, he was one evil man for sure.

    I believe there is also a separate sect of Mormons that broke off with those that did go to Utah also, based in Missouri still. Not sure what they believe. But evidently there was some sort of disagreement with these people compared to those that did go on to Utah.

    Something else we did notice taking place in Salt Lake more than any place else, was the fact that many of these Mormons that did not end up not repenting and turning to the truth, seemed to go deeper into occult involvements than they were into while in the church. But the truth is, we are either walking toward God and His truth, or walking away from it, into ungodliness. There is really no in between. But of course, this was years ago we did spend time there too. But it is true, they are secretive about as you did say Mark of Susan, until you have been initiated into the higher realms of the religion. I also met a man that had this beautiful ring on with a cross on it. My telling him that was a beautiful cross on his ring, he getting very upset that i did call it a cross. But to this day still don't know why. Except that the ring evidently signified his high position within the church somehow. Maybe you know Marilyn why he reacted the way he did?

    One thing that came to mind while reading what Derek Prince said, was that all that are not abiding in Christ, and He abiding in them, are attempting to climb up another way to God, which if course didn't work when they tried to build that tower of Babylon the story written in Genesis chapter 11. And will not work for anyone trying to do so today either. And there are many that are trying to come their own way unfortunately. Many that are sitting in the Christian churches for that matter, their being deceived just as you all said.

    Blessings,
    Sandy

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13. marilynk
    Member

    Sandy, the Mormon church does not allow crosses on church property. They concider it idolitry. I think that this topic has gone far left for what was intended when I posted this article. It was for the purpose to understand the deception that enters into peoples lives, not just Mormons. That we cannot see the bigger picture is a little disturbing to me. Just focusing on one sect of people and not the greater issue the issues in the body of Messiah. Marilyn

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14. mark and susan
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    Someone here said...It is almost the season for those prepared to lead the body during the tribulation to be brought out of hiding.

    Me:
    To their destrustion???
    Gathering information on the sheep???

    someone:
    Take heart my brothers this is our purpose. Blessings

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15. 4Jesus
    Member

    Sorry Marilyn. I apologize for writing anything about what happened. Apparently the one telling me this was also wrong. But anyway, I am sorry if I offended you or anyone else here of course.

    Blessings,
    Sandy

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