1. RightlyDivided
   Member

   How dare any of us say what must and must not be part of the Gospel without showing clearly what the BIBLE says is included in the Gospel.
   Paul never said one word about HELL in any of his 13 epistles or Acts 9-28.
   Paul used the word gospel (79 out of 104 times) more than any other person in the Bible.
   What you have effectively done is claim that Paul was not preaching the full Gospel in the book of Acts or his epistles.
   While Paul does speak of judgment, wrath and one near reference to hell (2 thess 1:7), he never included Hell as part of his gospel.

   Rather he warned those who preach another gospel than the one he preached “let him be accursed”!

   Posted 1 year ago #

2. NewJerusalem
   Inactive

   That is a good point which bears more prayer and consideration.

   Posted 1 year ago #

3. Sheepkinz
   Member

   REALLY?????? HOW DARE YOUUUUU!!!!!!
   HEll is real and hell is spoken of and is very much apart of the written word of GOD!!!

   2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but ...
   For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,
   putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment ...

   Matthew 23:33 "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you ...
   "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? ... Snakes!
   Sons of vipers! How will you escape the judgment of hell? ...

   Luke 16:23 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw ...
   In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus
   by his side. ... He went to hell, where he was constantly tortured. ...

   James 3:6 The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the ...
   ... the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course
   of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell. ...

   Mark 9:47 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is ...
   And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the
   kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell ...

   Mark 9:45 And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is ...
   And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter
   life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. ...

   Mark 9:43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better ...
   If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed
   than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. ...

   Matthew 5:30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off ...
   ... sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part
   of your body than for your whole body to go into hell. ...

   Matthew 5:29 If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and ...
   ... gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of
   your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. ...

   Matthew 10:28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but ...
   ... Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. ...
   Fear only God, who can destroy both soul and body in hell. ...

   Matthew 23:15 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you ...
   ... You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes
   one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. ...

   Luke 12:5 But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who ...
   But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the
   body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him. ...

   Matthew 18:9 And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and ...
   ... out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye
   than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell. ...

   Matthew 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his ...
   ... But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell. ... And
   if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell. ...

   Matthew 16:18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock ...
   ... Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means 'rock'), and upon this rock I will
   build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it. ...

   Matthew 11:23 And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the ...
   ... You won't be lifted up to heaven, will you? You'll go down to Hell! ... And you, Capernaum,
   will you be lifted to heaven? No, you will go down to hell! ...

   Luke 10:15 And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? ...
   ... You won't be lifted up to heaven, will you? You'll go down to Hell! ... And you, Capernaum,
   will you be lifted to heaven? No, you will go to hell! ...

   Revelation 20:14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of ...
   ... Death and hell were thrown into the fiery lake. (The ... And death and hell
   were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. ...

   Revelation 1:18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am ...
   ... I have the keys of death and hell. ... I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold,
   I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. ...

   Revelation 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and ...
   ... The sea gave up its dead. Death and hell gave up their dead.
   People were judged based on what they had done. ...

   Rightly divided, YOU are WRONGLY divided!!!!

   Posted 1 year ago #

4. sontrans
   Member

   Well done Sheepkinz! Well done. The first post sounded kinda like 'new age' philosophy.

   Posted 1 year ago #

5. Sheepkinz
   Member

   Amen Sontrans, because whatever it is , it needs to burned in the fire!!!! Lies straight from the pits of HELL!!!!

   Posted 1 year ago #

6. Sheepkinz
   Member

   The title alone is straight up a lie. Universalist and the WAY believe there is no hell.

   Posted 1 year ago #

7. NewJerusalem
   Inactive

   Rightly Divided...

   Are you stating "there is NO HELL"?

   OR....Are you stating "HELL is NOT included in the gospel"?

   I think the above commentators are jumping to conclusions. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt.

   I will have to add that I DO believe there is an actual HELL and an actual LAKE OF FIRE, but the teaching of HELL that I believe is not the same teaching as most on this forum.

   Posted 1 year ago #

8. Gramma
   Member

   What is the Gospel? John Piper:

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMdX5IO5Eqc

   Posted 1 year ago #

9. Sheepkinz
   Member

   NJ,
   when someone says this , why, ------->hell is NOT a part of the gospel, one doesnt need to wonder what he meant....
   it speaks for itself!!!!

   Posted 1 year ago #

10. NewJerusalem
    Inactive

    There is a "partial GOSPEL" which is taught in the churches and by many brethren today....It is called "the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST".

    Then there is the FULL GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD....which not many people even know what that is...let alone teach or preach it.

    Posted 1 year ago #

11. Sheepkinz
    Member

    This is _Perversion of the Gospel
    Yes he said part of the verse above but here is the whole of it...
    Galations 1:
    6I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; 7which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!

    Posted 1 year ago #

12. NewJerusalem
    Inactive

    This verse IS only speaking of the Gospel of Christ.

    NOT the FULL GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

    Mat 4:23 KJV - And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.

    Mat 9:35 KJV - And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.

    Mat 24:14 KJV - And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

    Mar 1:14 KJV - Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

    Posted 1 year ago #

13. John Sutton
    Moderator

    Let's reserve further comments until the original poster can clarify their position, please.

    Posted 1 year ago #

14. Roger Souden
    Member

    John - reading RightlyDivided's (Jeff's) OP above, I question what was said for him to say as he did..?

    Something upset him !! His only other comment, that I can find is here, (same time frame) http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/bbpress/topic/1758
    ..and in that comment Jeff was concerned about mixed messages on the forum.

    *

    Jeff, as John has said, can you please share more about your concerns..?

    In His love,
    Roger

    Posted 1 year ago #

15. Sheepkinz
    Member

    http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/2011/07/15/why-hell-is-integral-to-the-gospel/#comments

    I just saw this on the other side where Andrew Strom's articles are just now. This very well may be the reason for his posting :
    "WHY HELL is INTEGRAL to THE GOSPEL"

    Posted 1 year ago #

16. Roger Souden
    Member

    You are right Sheepkinz,

    - Rightly Divided's OP above is a repeat of his comment, posted under Jeff Ayers, on your linked thread 'why-hell-is-integral-to-the-gospel'.

    Posted 1 year ago #

17. Andy
    Member

    All I have to say is: Love Wins.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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