I have a question. How much is too much teaching on angels. And the closer we get to the Lord and His glory should we being seeing angels? I went to a meeting today in which most were new/baby Christians. The minister taught alot on angels and angelic encounters. He said he had a personal angel whose name is Raphael and their are tens of thousands of angels under him. Do any of you have any thoughts on this?
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The word angels in the bible means a messenger. How much teaching do you think you need on a messenger? Will teaching on God's messengers' draw you closer to the Lord, or does learning more about the God of the bible draw you closer to the Lord?
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I don't think that majoring on angels is a good thing... :-)
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You said the meeting had mostly new/baby Christians. By the content of the teaching you described, it sounds like the minister was one also.
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Col 2: 18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. 19 He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.
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Kathleen,
I think your question was a good question. Anytime you desire to know how much emphasis should be on any subject, look to the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the apostolic teachings of the New Testament, and you will find your answer.Posted 1 year ago # -
Thanks guys. Appreciate the confirmation. My friend and I have been going door to door in a small community telling people about Jesus. A bible study with some of them began about a month ago. I just didn't think this was appropriate for new believers or anyone else.
Thanks Onesimus for that scripture it couldn't have described what happened this morning with more accuracy.Isn't Jesus enough? When I look around at all of the weird teachings and the lust for otherworldly manifestations that is the question I have.
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1Ti 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
1Ti 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
1Ti 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, ........
GOD bless you all.
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All angels point towards Jesus as the ultimate Sacrifice and God the Father, Whom is worthy of ALL praise.
They are messengers to do the bidding of God.
When focus is taken away from Jesus and God and put on angels that is idolatry.
Obviously the preacher does not know that we are made a little lower than the angels here on earth, but in heaven we will be judging angels.
I Corinthians 6:3 (KJV) "Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?"
Why would I want to concentrate on something that I will be judging in heaven? Wouldn't I want to concentrate on the One Who died for me so I can get to heaven?
Thanks,
Kelly W.Posted 1 year ago # -
Amen to that Kelly!
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God always had - "HIS ANGELS" - not our angels - He always sent them for a particular purpose as his messangers - when you read his Word you see this happening.
He can send them to proclaim his message - to Warn - to Proclaim a future proclamation - to minister - to protect - or to destroy.
There are differant ranks of Angels.
No man is to worship or desire angels - only Jesus is worthy to be worshiped and he is our desire of the ages and forever.
I remember when Jesus was ministered to by Angels after his 40 days in the desert -refuting satan.
Real Angels do appear to people whom God sends them too - God is an awesome God as we see this throughout the bible - and it does happen today - and I expect it more during the Tribulation - the word of God says God will even send an angel to go throughout the earth to preach the gospel during the Tribulation.
I believe when this happens this is when we can then truely say - the gospel shall have been taken throughout the whole earth - along with Christs true witnesses - then we can begin to expect his imminate return
We must walk in the fear of the Lord and leave all this too him.
There is also demons whom pose as angels of light - these angels of darkness are what started the whole Muslem faith and the Book of Morman.Even the teaching on the Pre-trib rapture!
Those walking in the spirit will be able to discern these angels of darkness.
In the false prophetic movement many claim to have their own personal angels - but these are angels of darkness and have lead many to fall away from the truth.
We must never try to summon angels or even desire to have them appear to us for as mentioned this would be in place of desiring Jesus and opens doors to the demonic.
I have seen this in the fallen prophetic movement and it is dangerous.
It is always God who makes the decession if he sends one of - HIS messangers.
Blessings, Lynn
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I agree with what you wrote about this issue Lynn.
Meaning to search the scriptures concerning what God uses them for, keeping a balance, which I see Lynn was describing totally.
Blessings,
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Too Much of a Good Thing is sometimes Too Much! GOD has dispatched HIS Angels to help & serve HIS Church, but we (the Church) are clearly warned against 'Worship of the Hosts of Heaven/Angels'. Anything & everything can be abused & perverted, when Christians 'take their eyes off of GOD' and fail to read & heed the 'One True-Holy Bible-Inerrant Word of GOD' the judgement & punishment is very Severe!
FYI=Angels appear most-prominently within many of the 'AntiChristian' movements pervading today's Churches
Deuteronomy 17:3-5
New King James Version (NKJV)3 who has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, either the sun or moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded, 4 and it is told you, and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently. And if it is indeed true and certain that such an abomination has been committed in Israel, 5 then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has committed that wicked thing, and shall stone to death that man or woman with stones.
GOD Bless! to All
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The following isn't exactly a teaching about angels as much as it's my true (and slightly tongue-in-cheek) testimony....
MY GUARDIAN ANGELS
As I look back on my life it's scary to see
My many close calls with calamities,
When all I could do when I needed quick help
Was to mutter some prayer and a pitiful yelp.
I never knew what pulled me on through
But I knew it was something that I didn't do.
So what could it be that snatched me from harm?
Was it merely coincidence?--or some lucky charm?
Well, whatever the source, it sure has been strong,
watchful and faithful my whole life long.
And then one night, as I slumbered away,
A couple of angels stopped by to say:
“We were assigned to you the day you were born;
You’ve put us to the test and we’re tuckered and worn.
Guarding you was our job and we did our job well;
Ten thousand times we have snatched you from hell.”
And then with a sigh and a heavenly laugh
They lovingly asked for my autograph.
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Wineskin,This is a good passage reguarding Angels also !
1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
Their habitation
9 Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
Psalms 91:1-16 (KJV)Posted 1 year ago #