1. kpublbu
   Member

   Hello all.

   Thank you for the posts. I was able to read through them but not with the normal attentiveness, as I have some matters to attend to for now. So it is entirely possible I read something wrong. But please, allow me to share something of great importance concerning what is taking place here:

   NO ONE IS BUILDING ANYTHING (that men can see. The work is simply to believe.)

   That's the beauty. God is the doer. We all know this. We wait on Him. We don't seek a church or some revival or ... there are literally thousands of interpretations that men have in their minds in general about God's work in these last times.

   I personally don't presume to know much of anything about what's going on here. Except that God gave me a vision, with some instructions, I posted some details, other people by the Spirit chimed in. God began revealing a thing. I don't know thomas from Barney Fife. I have read approximately 20 posts of his in the brief time I've been on this site. Anything that has taken place in this thread is not conjured by the will of man.

   I'm not saying that anyone here is saying that. But I do feel the need to make this emphatic at the outset: NO ONE IS BUILDING ANYTHING (that men can see, the work is simply to believe).

   I cannot say this enough. No effort of man will accomplish anything. All things spoken of here are spiritual, and when established spiritually, by Him alone, and waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting and then waiting and waiting some more on Him and a little more even, if He so moves one to do this and another to do that, then He is the one doing the work: because the beauty of the whole thing is that no one gets the total blueprint. Therefore, what He does step by step CANNOT be built by man. The right hand literally will not know what the left is doing, until the project is sufficiently established by Him such that revealing the entire matter to those partaking of it in no way brings danger of the work being destroyed.

   I sincerely praise God for all of you. I hope I have not come across as reactive here, but I do feel very strongly that anyone reading this thread should understand clearly that NO ONE IS BUILDING ANYTHING (that men can see, the work is simply to believe).

   Only when a call to rebuild is sounded--if God should still so choose to do so--will those things which are spiritual begin to take place with regards to this matter directly. Spiritual ears will hear a spiritual call. Spiritual men will be dusted off. Some scales will fall from eyes and ears. Hearts will turn to the Lord in cleanness and purity. How this takes place is up to the Lord, but I imagine it will be something along the lines of "Repent"! A simple, straightforward message that appears to have no relation to building anything whatsoever.

   And yet we know the whole function of John the Baptist was to prepare the way for Him who was to come.

   I will write more later probably when I have more time to review the posts above according to the Spirit. Please, my brethren, let us seek the Lord, as that is what is important. If we as living stones (I did get to briefly scan Roger's link, not thoroughly yet though) make ourselves clean by faith according to the Spirit, then this is the act of preparing for the building that God desires to do. This is the sacrifice that we can offer at this time. What the Lord makes out of these loaves as He breaks them is up to Him.

   Please forgive me for having to leave at the moment, there is clearly a need to review everything everyone has shared. And I do thank you all.

   (Roger: Looking forward to reading your link).

   Blessings to all, in love,

   K.

   P.S. Anyone reading this thread from this point on from beginning to end, please understand that though everything appears to have happened quickly, it has actually been over a full week now. And if you look at the timing under the posts, for the entire first five days the thread was just barely more than one page. Please keep in mind that no rushing has taken place here. God bless. Let us each walk by faith and offer our small little parts required of us by God. And this truly is the glory, in that people all around the world, not directly connected to one another by name or physical relationship will participate in His work, according to His Spirit, as He has placed each member in the body.

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2. 4Jesus
   Member

   I have just been reading here mostly so far with interest. As I do agree God is going to rebuild what K is saying, from the ground up. My husband had a vision of this being done eventually, probably 30 years ago or more. Still waiting, yet still believing what he saw was of the Lord. So I witness to what those of you are saying about this rebuilding that is going to take place before Jesus comes totally.

   But for now, what I wanted to say, was to ask how many of us have come out of churches that were not preaching the truth, at least according to what we believe is truth today anyway, yet are where we are because of what did happen in the past? Because I began in the Lutheran church as a young person years ago, yet I know even then god was drawing me to Him in many different ways. Yet I later visited a Baptist Church as a teenager, later on, their talking about repenting, my wondering, what in the heck is that?

   I don't know if I will be here when Jesus comes. As I am now 74 years old. But I know I could be if I am to be here when this does happen. But I also know, that even though I was not told the truth to begin with, and for many years after, as I do see it today. I also have come to believe that all things really do work together for those that are called according to His purpose. Meaning God was dealing with me even then about some of the error that was taking place in the Lutheran church, mostly when I was 11, going to their Catechism classes. But at the same time drawing to the time when I would begin to follow Him finally. I was also in some of the WOF beliefs in the beginning, that I came to find out were not right, by the Lord revealing to me they were wrong personally. Yet I learned from them some things that were true. Even sometimes we learn what is not truth by being mixed up in the things that are not of God. Why this is, I don't know. Or why it happens I probably do not know fully. But it does, that I do know. And the one thing it has done in my life is to have compassion on those people that are still within these churches that are not true, just as much as those that are total unbelievers. What I am saying, is being wrong is not always a bad thing at all. What is, is refusing to get right when God does show you, you have been wrong. Whether it has to do with what your doing, or what you believe is the truth.

   So when this revival does happen, what I am looking for is the latter rain. The former has already happened, but the latter hasn't has it? And that is when you are going to see many come out of those places some of us has already come out of already, I truly believe. Their finally having their eyes and ears of understanding opened up then, just as many of them did in the beginning, after the church did begin.

   But I totally agree God is going to be the one to build this one, that is for sure. And this one, nothing is going to prevail against it either. Because if we are right with Him to begin with, it is He that is rebuilding us individually first, as His temples that will make up that church in the end. But we need to remember too, he does it one brick (person) at a time. But true that one person could be as it was in the beginning, amounting to three thousand bricks in one day, once again.

   Love in Him,
   Sandy

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3. kpublbu
   Member

   Sandy,
   I think you are wonderful. As always, thank you for sharing from your heart and from your great reservoir of experiences.

   I do know that this "latter rain" teaching was something that started around the late forties in large part, I read a book about seven years ago by the man whose name I do not recall (George maybe?). It was quite interesting, and I largely agreed with it. At the moment though, I have little knowledge about a "latter rain" except that it is mentioned in Scripture. I also do know that it relates to harvest time, which clearly would make sense. Oh yes, I remember now, it was something about the Feast of Tabernacles. I could find it if I searched. I seem to recall there were a couple minor points I was not quite sure were correct, but the telling of the experience that took place was obviously quite a powerful event and work of God.

   Roger
   Profound insight and a blessing from God in that dream and its interpretation. Thank you for linking that. I think it pretty much covers everything that has been said so far with relation to God's work of building. Such a nice summary, thank you again so much.

   Misc
   In considering these things, it becomes apparent to me that the "blowing of the trumpet" or sounding the call to rebuild may not necessarily be "tomorrow", but could likely be a month, a year, three years away. I personally do not feel prepared to respond to such a call, but I don't know that the call is necessarily "for" me, as it were (let me explain). By this I mean that the foundation according to Eph2:2 of the holy apostles and prophets, with Christ as the chief cornerstone, are the foundation. I myself am a novice, and not quite even that yet honestly (this is not self deprecation, just an accurate assessment according to my current understanding). While I may be called at some point to grow into a supporting role for such a building of God, I do not believe in any way shape or form I am capable of fulfilling such a role in His body at this time. BUT, there are certainly numerous ones who are. And it is to these that the call will go out, and whose ears and hearts will respond.

   To use an analogy from the dream Roger shared, the overgrowth must be removed, as currently they are "locked in place". I called it "removing the rubble", but it's the same thing. These foundational stones do faithfully what they currently are doing unto the Lord, yet with little strength. When the call is sounded, it is my understanding that the overgrowth will then begin to be removed by His Spirit. He did actually give me a tidbit on this today, and let me know that those few that I am familiar with, He will have me speak with whatever He gives at that time. So the call will go out in the Spirit, and those moved by the Spirit will speak as He says to whom He says, so this is one aspect of it manifesting in the physical. It will be a declaration of the Lord in the Spirit that He is calling forth His gems, His precious ones, those deeply acquainted with His sufferings, His love, His mercy, His mind, His ways. And then their little strength will take on a great change, much as the small spark plugs fitted into an engine as the last pieces cause the whole apparatus to function, with great power, for which it was designed. And that design is to draw the living stones, which will be laid piece by piece on top of the foundational collective sacrifice... which sacrifice I know by personal experience (in knowing individuals like this) that it is no small thing in the Lord's sight. Let the call go forth! IT IS GOD WHO BUILDS! IT IS GOD WHO BEGAN A GOOD WORK and will be FAITHFUL TO COMPLETE IT AMEN and AMEN.

   Much love to all,

   K

   P.S. This is not of me or anyone else, as I personally am quite content to wait another twenty years if necessary. I do not like the wilderness any more than anyone else, but if He is with me, I have no complaints. What more could I want than that He would fulfill His OWN good pleasure by His OWN hand according to His OWN perfect perfect timing, such that all the world will know that He is the Lord of Lords, hallelujah. I would never desire that a work of God be worked out of time just so I could see it. I have learned that rushing a good thing never brings good results.

   Posted 5 months ago #

4. kpublbu
   Member

   Thomas, you said

   Most of us have known that the Spirit was quenched there, and the life was gone for a while, but this signifies something deeper I think...that in the Lord's eyes it is over. He sees it as gone, shaken into dust, all the way to the bottom. What is left is nothing but rubble, and remains.

   Soon New Beginnings in New Wineskins will hold New Wine....and equal love unto the least...no matter the cost.

   Yet, He has promised more...and as soon as all vestiges of this old shell is gone, and the New Wine can be poured in, He will begin again...for that final outpouring. [which is close to occurring ] He will again begin again, on a clean and new, but ancient foundation. Jesus is Lord, and you are all brothers and sisters...so act that way.

   Thank you for sharing this, brother. I noted above that the call could go for in a week, month, year, three years... I would like to say while this is a possibility, I do not see it taking place as far out as three years, but rather sooner, according to the Scriptures in Nehemiah, which was not a period of years, but significantly less. All in the Lord's perfect timing though.

   K

   Posted 5 months ago #

5. 4Jesus
   Member

   K I thank you so much for saying that I am wonderful. Why? Because I know that it is not me that is wonderful at all, but what He has done in my life only.

   But so are you too. You may be young in age brother, but old in spiritual years. Probably a lot more than you realize. God has his hand on you, and He is not going to let go, that I do know. And whatever he has for you to do, will probably be a lot more than you even want right now, or maybe realize.

   That is IMO why your here on this forum. Somehow, and I don't now how, God is using this forum to bring people together that have committed their life totally to following the Lord. At least that is what I am seeing happening here. Not that everyone is here that are committed of course. I have been on the forums for over 15 years here and there, and have never seen a group of people doing what is going on here for now. Every time Andrew asks if we want him to close this down, I think oh no, you cannot do that. Even if the devil does send his troops in. He does not bother anyone or anything that is not accomplishing anything for the Lord in the first place does he? He only bothers to try to stop those things are of God. That is how he got into the faith movement. Causing them to get off balance, seeking things that appeal to the flesh. But in the beginning, I don't believe it was like that. Even though I did come in not long after it did begin.

   Meaning the Lord spoke to me something years ago that I did not understand at the time. Speaking to me what it speaks of in what is written in Gal. 1:
   5: AND THAT BECAUSE OF FALSE BRETHREN UNAWARES BROUGHT IN WHO CAME IN PRIVILY TO SPY OUT OUR LIBERTY WHICH WE HAVE IN CHRIST JESUS, THAT THEY MIGHT BRING US INTO BONDAGE.

   God telling me this has gone on since the beginning of the church, and is still going on yet today.

   Because Jesus sets us free from sin, whereas the devil desires to bring us back into bondage to sin.

   Paul also talks about the same thing happening in 2 Corinthians chapter 11, saying the same thing there that these false workers are doing in 2 Cor. 11:20. And of course, this is where we need the body to pray for discernment. Or pray for someone that walks in this discernment to at least warn us when it does happen, so that we can see what is going on, and prevent it from happening.
   But at the same time, remembering that Peter sat with some attempting to do this very thing, when Paul confronted him to the face also. Meaning not to jump to conclusions, just because someone seems to be one doing this, that they are not temporarily deceived perhaps themselves. My believing that sometimes experiencing deception in our own lives, teaches us that if we were deceived, then so can another be also. Needing to be restored by the leading of the Lord as well.

   Meaning agape is definitely going to prevail in this end time ministry for sure. Which maybe is why it says that there will be many that do end up losing their salvation they began with because of losing that love they did begin with after all, written in Mt. 24:12-13.

   Did Jesus tell what was going to happen over many years in that chapter? Or was it actually only something that was going to happen in a natural generation, rather than possibly a spiritual of generation of the church instead. There are different thoughts on this. I cannot say, because the Lord has not shown me what He was saying there in that chapter.

   But one thing I do know. He is coming for a church that is without spot wrinkle of blemish, when He does come.

   Love in Him,
   Sandy

   Posted 5 months ago #

6. kpublbu
   Member

   Thank you Sandy for the encouraging words. And especially for the comments about the forum. Because I have no way to judge what this forum is like as compared to other forums. I have never participated in a Christian forum before. So I would have no idea as to the comparison. But to hear you say that it is a good place to share, further reinforces the fact that I feel the Lord led me here, and I have found good encouragement, teaching, healing, fellowship, instruction, wisdom, etc.

   Also, the comment on Gal1:5, thank you. I was not aware it was in several places in the Scripture (I am well acquainted with the verses in many places, it just never dawned on me how often the warnings are given), a valuable reminder.

   In prayer for wisdom and grace,

   Kpub.

   Posted 5 months ago #

7. Tye
   Member

   I wanted to say Thank you to Kpub and all the other posters. This thread has been an amazing one for me! I will continue to read and re-read each part.

   I will say again how amazed I am how God speaks to different people in very different locations and times the exact same words!!

   Posted 5 months ago #

8. kpublbu
   Member

   I am copy-pasting below a post I made yesterday on the "babies" thread because it is the fulfillment of the "drop of rain" prophesy-vision I was given (recorded at the top of page 3 of this thread), and so relevant as much to this thread as the original thread I posted it on. After I posted the original text yesterday afternoon, I did later talk to Thomas on the phone for over two hours, and the Lord abundantly confirmed that what is written below is from Him. I hope that in time Thomas may feel free to share more about his experience of the Spirit falling on him and its after effects.

   Cory

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   Begin copy-paste, posted yesterday to page two of this thread: http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/bbpress/topic/3068.

   Thomas

   I believe the Lord has shown me some things of importance and I would desire a witness to see if they are true; though I am certain they are, and are from Him:

   Recently, you have posted several messages (threads) of prophesies (as well as experiences) given to you by God. And these messages (the Lord seems to impress me that the particular messages number three in quantity) are a generalization of the three aspects of the ministry He has given you. I am not speaking this in the flesh as if I just reviewed the messages you shared, because off the top of my head I don't recall them all. But, the sounding forth of these messages through obedience is of such importance in the Lord's eyes that He is impressing me with the idea that this is the very trumpet call we discussed in the call to rebuild thread.

   Now, it was done this way to show that it was not of man. For neither you nor I nor anyone I believe could have contrived such a thing. BUT, as I sat and prayerfully pondered what seemed to be this revelation from the Lord (and whether what I was receiving was from Him), He showed me that the Spirit that fell on you this morning was the drop of rain He prophesied in that same call to rebuild thread. This also confirms the completion of the call, resounding into the heavens and throughout the earth in the Spirit.

   I expect that if this insight is indeed from God, we should also experience a thunderclap as well at some point in the (near?) future.

   I would like to know if the Spirit of God witnesses to the truth of this through any.

   In His love, and God bless you brother,

   Cory

   EDIT: When I have time much later, I hope to review a few of the threads you posted, and see if the Lord gives me understanding of the three messages I feel He is saying He has given you as a ministry. I know that one for sure is Ez34 in this particular thread, and a second the "fathers". But I'm sorry I'm not thinking of a third right now, I'm limited on time right now and have trouble checking threads on this particular slow computer. (Also, I do not mean to say you are limited to three aspects of ministry, I just feel the Lord is saying He does have a particular thrust that He uses you for in three particular areas).

   End copy-paste
   ============
   The summation of the above is that God is proving that the trumpet has been blown, the drop of rain has fallen, a thunderclap is soon to be heard, and the rubble is now to be cleaned off. Let it be so according to the revelation of the Spirit given to the body and the working of God alone.

   Posted 5 months ago #

9. Roger Souden
   Member

   Cory,
   This morning I believed to share 'Foundations for the House of Living Stones', http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/bbpress/topic/3088#post-54304
   which I believe that you and others will relate to - given the comments on this thread of yours.

   The 'Foundations..' vision, I have had for some years, together with others. They speak of the same process - that God is building His house to His design, and in His time.

   This work has been ongoing for a while - He will not be hurried, the process cannot be rushed.

   There are a number that I am aware of, who are patiently waiting His call. In the mean time, they continued to be 'prepared'. Some are now with the Lord Jesus - yet their teachings/visions remain with us.

   In His love,
   Roger

   Posted 5 months ago #

10. kpublbu
    Member

    For those who have been listening, I will provide no details, but the Lord has confirmed the thunderclap has also taken place. A storm is on the way.

    Posted 5 months ago #

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