“THE STRANGER” – author unknown

A real old classic… Please comment…

-author unknown.

Years after I was born, my Dad met a stranger who was new to our
small town. From the beginning, Dad was fascinated with this
enchanting newcomer and soon invited him to live with our family.
The stranger was quickly accepted and was around from then on.

As I grew up, I never questioned his place in my family. In my
young mind, he had a special niche. My parents were
complementary instructors: Mum taught me good from evil, and
Dad taught me to obey. But the stranger… he was our storyteller.
He would keep us spellbound for hours on end with adventures,
mysteries and comedies.

If I wanted to know anything about politics, history or science, he
always knew the answers about the past, understood the present
and even seemed able to predict the future! He took my family to
the first major league ball game. He made me laugh, and he made
me cry. The stranger never stopped talking, but Dad didn’t seem to mind.

Sometimes, Mum would get up quietly while the rest of us were
shushing each other to listen to what he had to say, and she
would go to the kitchen for peace and quiet. (I wonder now if she
ever prayed for the stranger to leave.)

Dad ruled our household with certain moral convictions, but the
stranger never felt obligated to honour them. Profanity, for example,
was not allowed in our home – not from us, our friends or any
visitors. Our long time visitor, however, got away with four-letter
words that burned my ears and made my dad squirm and my
mother blush. My Dad didn’t permit the liberal use of alcohol but
the stranger encouraged us to try it on a regular basis. He made
cigarettes look cool, cigars manly, and pipes distinguished. He
talked freely (much too freely!) about sex. His comments were
sometimes blatant, sometimes suggestive, and generally embarrassing..

I now know that my early concepts about relationships were
influenced strongly by the stranger. Time after time, he opposed
the values of my parents, yet he was seldom rebuked… And
NEVER asked to leave.

More than fifty years have passed since the stranger moved in with
our family. He has blended right in and is not nearly as fascinating
as he was at first. Still, if you could walk into my parents’ den
today, you would still find him sitting over in his corner, waiting for
someone to listen to him talk and watch him draw his pictures.

His name???

We just call him “TV.” I really fear what his grandkids will be like.

(Note: He has a wife now… we call her “Computer.”
Their first child is “Cell Phone.”
Second child “I Pod.”)

-Please comment below-

Posted in Uncategorized by Andrew on October 21st, 2010 at 5:03 pm.


31 Replies

  1. Ken Arrand Oct 29th 2010

    For me, TV, does not hold any attraction. I do find it worldly and even “good” programmes I neglect. My heart is not that way inclined, anymore. I seem to have far better things to do with my time. I think computers/lap tops are an essential part of living now (like the motor car and aeroplane). My focus now is to have my eyes and thoughts concentrated on Jesus Christ. I want HIM to be my life, my all in all.

    Not mentioned are newspapers. I buy the occasional one (once every 6 months!). I find God lets me know the things HE wants me to know. My desire is that HE is my ALL sufficiency (not TV 5%, newspapers 5 % and Christ the remainder!). HE can provide all my needs eg knowing what I need to know regarding the news, world interests. Yes, HE might quicken to buy a magazine or newspaper, but to look at it that it is still Him.

    It is a little like my job where I work. I told my boss that God is my provider and that God was temporarily using him and the company to provide for my needs. I do not care what they pay me because if God wants me to have more cash HE can provide in any number of ways. God must be my ALL sufficiency. HIS ways of doing that vary – an amazing GOD, and a pleasure to get to know HIM!

  2. What’s bad also is what happenned to me yesterday. I pulled up on the comp. the Gaither Homecoming videos. I was literally crying listenning to some of the old gospel songs being sung. I thought i’d spend some time in praise and worship in this manner because it was so precious and powerful. Then came the humor. The joking around that was off color. The comedians of pre’70’s would never had touched the bathroom humor that I heard.
    This is why I hated ‘church fellowships’ because of the bodily function humor that would eventually surface.
    Even the ‘outta churchers’ cannot seem to let this garbage go. Seems to be a mainstay for christians. That and the latest R-rated movie. What’s going on? Guess I’m just not hip enough but I hated this stuff when I was lost. Now I’m suppose to like it?? Even the latest christian movies, I noticed, are starting to use four letter words. I don’t wish to sound ‘high and mighty’ but we just finished filming our movie ‘Maddy’ after a year and a half and we don’t have any cussing in it. My concern is that it won’t make the ‘ranks’ in the eyes of a production company. I know that we’ll need some pretty hefty miracles to get it to the next level, distribution. But I’ve always known this because of the shape of ‘christendom’ these days.
    Like Dr. Russel Kelly told me ‘to get something published in the christian realm, you’d better have a lot of money or sleep with someone to get it done’. Such as things are, I’ll stick with trusting God to over-ride all the foolishness and use the film as He sees fit.
    If you would care to see some trailers simply type in Maddy movie devon leesley Omaha youtube.. Should get you there.Appreciate any prayers on this.

  3. Kristina Paterson Oct 29th 2010

    It depends on what you choose to watch, isn’t it? What you allow your kids to watch.

    There are two extremes in my opinion. On the one hand is being so permissive that we are truly affected by the world we live in. The other is being so uptight about every little thing that might be considered “worldly” that we become religious, legalistic and isolate ourselves from the very world we’re trying to reach. And just become a little bit link monks.

    Unlike Ken, I don’t think that God gives me a “quickening” to buy a magazine or read a newspaper. God didn’t want robots for children, He wanted to teach us wisdom so that we could grow up in Him and make wise choices about what we watch and read and so on. If we don’t really know what’s going on in the world, we’re out of touch with reality and find it difficult to relate to people. And more importantly, people find it hard to relate to us.

    Is television evil? Or computers? Or cellphones? Or ipods? Nope, human nature is. It is what is in the heart of man. So it’s up to us: not to make up a whole bunch of extra rules like the Pharisees did and lead a life that looks super duper spiritual to everyone including themselves – but to focus on what’s really important: living a life that is full of God’s love and grace, and wisdom.

  4. ‘maddy devon leesley’ works better.

  5. Tony Kettle Oct 29th 2010

    Excellent!!!! I wrote the following article years ago and it complements “The Stranger” :


    “Their land is…full of idols;
    They worship the work of their
    own hands,
    That which their own fingers
    have made.”
    (ISA 2:8 NKJV)

    1. The Ancient Egyptians had tremendous medical, engineering and construction skills, amongst others, and they worshipped hundreds of false gods – idols – that they created with their own hands, using the skills they had developed. They also worshipped animals and their gods were depicted as part animal, part human. In effect, animals were deified and placed above human beings in terms of importance.

    2. One of the most popular artifacts, used as an amulet, was the “WADJET EYE”, or “UDJAT” – the “ALL-SEEING EYE OF HORUS” – representing a falcon’s eye (the idea of a falcon was probably used because of its sharp vision). It also symbolized the vengeful eye of the SUN GOD – “RE”. The SUN GOD was the dominant influence in the lives of the Ancient Egyptians.

    3. The “WADJET EYE” obviously had a major influence on the people, as they believed it had powers of protection. Therefore, due to cultural ‘conditioning’, the entire Egyptian nation was controlled by a lifeless object.

    4. As a result of their 430-year sojourn in Egypt, the Children of Israel – God’s covenant people – backslid and were tied to the Egyptian customs, way of life and, no doubt, to their false gods (EX 32:4; PS 78:8, 22). This is borne out by the fact that they longed to be back in Egypt when undergoing difficulties after the EXODUS (EX 14:11-12; 16:3; NUM 14:2-4).

    5. With all its advanced science and technology, modern-day spiritual ‘Egypt’ (the world (Greek : Kosmos) and its system) literally ‘worships’ the numerous ‘idols’ that it creates with its own hands, e.g., Mercedes-Benz and Rolls-Royce motor cars, fancy houses, money etc. Instead of loving people and using things, the world loves things and uses people (it even misuses and abuses them). Modern spiritual ‘Egypt’ is also embracing ideas and philosophies that are elevating animals above their intended status (GEN 1:26-28; 9:2). While I support the actions of rational people to conserve any endangered species and to protect animals from cruelty, there are, unfortunately, a number of extremists who, if allowed to, will see to it that animals are placed above human beings in terms of importance (as they were in Ancient Egypt). I hear ‘warning bells’ when I see television programmes that portray the police as disorganised fools who cannot catch criminals – with LASSIE, TEQUILA or RIN-TIN-TIN coming to the rescue, much to everybody’s relief! Moreover, is it just coincidence that a conservation series shown on South African television (i.e. “ECOVISION”) used a logo resembling the “WADJET EYE”?

    6. One of the most popular ‘idols’, for many years, has been what I have termed the ‘WATCH-IT EYE’ – TELEVISION – the present-day ‘ONE-EYED GOD’ – the modern equivalent of the “ALL-SEEING EYE OF HORUS”! You may scoff at this idea but technology developed in recent years has made it possible for television sets to be fitted with fibre optic cable that can monitor the actions and conversations of people in the privacy of their own homes – even when the television set is switched off! Literally an ‘ALL-SEEING EYE’! Think of it, the most personal and intimate aspects of our lives can be watched and overheard in our own homes by people located kilometres away. Imagine this ‘spy’ technology in the hands of a ruthless dictator or regime!

    7. Without doubt, the ‘WATCH-IT EYE’ – TELEVISION – has been, and continues to be, a tremendously strong influence in the lives of worldly people. In fact, it is probably true to say that it is the most dominant influence in their lives (as the “WADJET EYE” was in the case of the Ancient Egyptians). Therefore, the world – modern-day spiritual ‘Egypt’ – is, like Ancient Egypt, also ‘controlled’ by a lifeless object.

    8. Unfortunately, much of the output from television is negative and downright harmful. Research has shown that television violence and certain other things seen in programmes have been the primary cause of antisocial behaviour among young children and teenagers. Just as some of the idols of the ancient pagan religions were used as altars for the sacrifice of babies and young children, so children, today, are being ‘sacrificed’ to the ‘idol’ that takes the form of the ‘WATCH-IT EYE’ and to its influence. One of the more subtle attacks is through the increasing propagation of ‘New Age’ thinking by means of animated cartoons. Surprisingly, even spiritual ‘Egypt’ – the world – is becoming aware of the danger, as witnessed by the growing campaign in the U.S.A. to end violence in television programmes.

    9. A more alarming feature is the undeniable fact that most Christians – the Children of God – are enticed by – addicted to – the ‘WATCH-IT EYE’. This ‘idol’ is a ‘jealous’ ‘god’ and it demands that its ‘worshippers’ pay ‘homage’ to it for hours on end! The ‘WATCH-IT EYE’ provides its ‘enslaved’ followers with seductive ‘visions’ of life in modern spiritual ‘Egypt’ – sex, violence, drugs, rebellion against authority etc – and successfully prevents Christians from devoting their precious time to (a) the worship of the True, Living God, and (b) the renewing of their minds through the study of God’s Word. His Word clearly warns against this (ROM 12:1-2; HEB 12:2-29; JAMES 4:4; 1 JOHN 2:15-17).

    10. Because of their strong ties with spiritual ‘Egypt’ – the world – many Christians face the danger of turning back to it and its ways when tribulations (pressures) and persecution come (as with the Children of Israel). This is manifested in the fact that, rather than seek healing from JESUS CHRIST – THE GREAT PHYSICIAN – we are conditioned to run to the world’s doctors and psychiatrists when we are sick. The Children of Israel had none of Egypt’s physicians with them in the wilderness – they received healing by looking at the brazen serpent on the pole (NUM 21:8-9), a ‘type’ of the healing given by Jesus Christ. We, however, continue to spend “all that we have” on doctors (MARK 5:26) (note : medical fees are soaring and medical aid societies are having problems in meeting the cost of claims), instead of “touching the hem of His garment” (MARK 5:27-29), which doesn’t cost us a cent! Rather than trust in the power of prayer, we prefer to use ‘magic potions’ (drugs and medicine), supplied by pharmacists (modern-day witchdoctors or shamans). It is significant that advertisements which actively – and successfully – encourage this approach are regularly screened on television – a testimony to the ‘hypnotic’ power of the ‘WATCH-IT EYE’!

    11. Reproduced below is a cynical, but appropriate, ‘take-off’ of PSALM 23, which came into my possession some years ago. Its source is unknown but its message is clear –

    “CHANNEL 23″

    “The TV set is my Shepherd, my spiritual growth shall want. It maketh me to sit down and do nothing for His Names sake, because it requireth all my spare time. It keepeth me from doing my duty as a Christian, because it presenteth so many good shows that I must see.

    It restoreth my knowledge of the things of the world, and keeps me from the study of God’s Word. It leadeth me in the paths of failing to attend the evening Worship services and doing nothing in the Kingdom of God.

    Yea, though I live to be a hundred I shall keep on viewing my TV as long as it will work, for it is my closest companion.

    It’s sound and it’s picture, they comfort me. It presenteth entertainment before me, and keepeth me from doing important things with my family. It fills my head with ideas which differ from those set forth in the Word of God.
    Surely no good thing will come of my life, because my TV offereth me no good time to do the Will of God.

    Thus I will dwell in the place of the devil and his angels forever.”

    12. Quite a challenge to us, don’t you think? We need to discipline ourselves firmly in this area of our lives, through the power of Christ’s indwelling Spirit (PHIL 4:13) – and keep the world’s false ‘gods’ out of our minds –

    “There shall no strange god be in thee;
    neither shalt thou worship any strange god.”
    (PS 81:9 KJV)

    “…neither will we say any more to the
    work of our hands, ye are our gods…”
    (HOS 14:3 KJV)


    (UPDATED 11 JULY 1996)
    (UPDATED 10 JUNE 2003)
    (UPDATED 17 FEBRUARY 2005)

  6. Must be nice to be so Holy not to watch tv.search the computer to learn about God. An have no humor.
    Although even if you don’t do none of the above you are still sinners saved only by His Grace.

  7. And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for YE ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD; as God has said,
    “I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God and they shall be my people,
    wherefore come out from among them
    and be ye separate, saith the Lord
    and touch not the unclean thing,
    and I will receive you. 2 Cor 6:16,17

    Below is a song we teach the children:

    “It doesn’t matter what they say
    You’ve been called another way
    To be separate and untarnished by the world
    It doesn’t matter what they do
    If His calling is on you
    Come ye out and be ye separate, saith the Lord.”

    Some really don’t have the vision of what God is doing or they would run as hard as those who do.

  8. Kristina Paterson Oct 30th 2010

    So agree Dannie :)

  9. Sorry, Devon — all they had in answer to a search were your own words:

    “If you would care to see some trailers simply type in Maddy movie devon leesley Omaha youtube.. Should get you there ”

    They left off your request for prayer

  10. I stopped watching television in the 1990’s. My 11 year old son has been raised without television. As a result he is moral, ethical, god fearing, respectful, above his grade in academic achievement, highly creative, an astonishing writer for his age, and a voracious reader, funny, happy and athletic. He has never once complained, and even brags to his friends that we don’t watch TV in our house. And we don’t miss it at all.

  11. PS the best research on the subject of the physical and psychological harm inflicted on people by television has been written by British researcher, Aric Sigmon. Google him.
    Besides that 3,000 years ago King David said, “I will lead no evil before my eyes” and the Lord directed us to pull our eyes out RATHER than to let them bring us to the pit. A man’s eyes put more evil in his heart and head and ultimately hands, by way of television, than any other source on earth.

  12. Andrew Oct 30th 2010

    It is not necessarily “legalistic” at all to point out the harm it has done. It is simply fact.
    If we could point to one thing that has helped the West become a sad, spiritually-and-morally bankrupt place in the last 50 years – then TV has to be high on the list of influences – if not Number One.

    You can call it “legalism”. I call this a “fact”.


  13. HappyTrails Oct 30th 2010

    V Christine Bingham……PREACH IT SISTER!

    Kristina/Dannie…..What do you do with GOD’S COMMANDS to be SEPARATE FROM THE WORLD?

    And how about this one?


  14. I would like to say that the “number one” damning influence in America is the pulpit. Where men who are claiming to know God and even speak for Him continue to live in sin and blatantly preach that we all (Christian and heathen alike) must continue in our sin in word, thought and deed daily. This is what has lead Americans down a path of riotous sinful living proclaiming that that is how “Christians” do it.

    I don’t think anyone in their right minds looks to TV to guide them on how God intends them to live, but they do look to the puplits to direct them in this manner. And when the pulpits’ advise is in error and anti-Christ by preaching a Christ who cannot deliver anyone from sin or who will send no one to Hell, who is the more egress offender the church or the TV? At least the TV can be used to show us how not to live, whereas the pulpits show us how to live a dead religion with no power to overcome sin ,but they call this error “Chrisitanity!” What a travisty and not until the people sitting in the pews and the ministers themselves fall on thier faces and repent of this and truly get born again with the evidence of freedom from sin will this type of false “christianty” be dethroned.

    You could through out every TV in America, but if you don’t change the preacing from the pulpit nothing would be accomplished; it would simple be replaced with some other “thing” that the church could blame for her dimise.

    I sick and tired of the church blambing the world or the Devil for all her sin and trouble-the truth is the church is responsible for all the sin in the church and the world-she preaches half truths and lives half truths-she has not the living Christ of the bible, but has made him to be a servant of sin, a powerless God who has not conqured sin and has made the cross of Christ of No effect! You get what you preach and the product our preaching has produced is riddle with every overt sin know to man- our minister can have homosexual affairs and no one says a thing-we hardly bat an eye at adultery and divorce- it is now so common place we just pretend it doesn’t happen and want to get back to being “positive.”

    Who is more to blame? TV or the pulpit?


  15. HappyTrails Oct 30th 2010


    Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN.

  16. God said to hate the things of this world, that’s real strong.
    It’s easy to see what television is doing to our lives unless you are deceived by the devil. Most all of us have been deceived by this thing, but thank God for getting set free. My wife and I were deceived by this thing as bad as anyone could be, but since we’ve been free of it for years, we hadn’t missed it at all. Try going without it for a few months. you’ll like it.
    I like what this old preacher had to say about television 50 years ago.


    LESTER ROLOFF ON THE IDOL OF THE HOUR “You know what I think the greatest idol in America is? There’s no doubt about it at all. It’s television…I believe you call it “progress”; I call it the devil. I’ve said that years ago; haven’t changed my tune. I’m not going to. ‘Cause I know what you’re doing. You sit there in front of that old one-eyed idiot for hours and hours and hours. It ruins your eyes. It ruins your soul. It ruins your children. It broke up your family altar…It’s ruined our preachers….It’s the idol of the hour!! I’ll tell you one reason I know it’s the idol of the hour – when it gets you, you can’t get loose from it. It’s Hell’s boa-constrictor… Homosexuals, and all sorts of immorality, broken homes, everything that I stand against that dirty monster stands for….I’ll fight it till I die…God’s people have been wounded. We’ve never had one revival, not one revival since television came out…I do not believe there’s one preacher on the face of this earth that owns a television set that’s ever been in a real Heaven sent, I mean window rattlin’…sinner saving, Hell robbin’ revival since he got his television set…You might have a had a few additions to the church, but you’ll never see the power of God as long as you’re sitting in the picture show…God’s people are backslidden…Souls are going to Hell…And the churches are like morgues and funeral homes…If you read my mail you’d know what I’m talking about…I know the preacher. I’d say he’s number one. I get letters all the time. About January they begin to come, maybe a little before. ‘Brother Roloff, my heart’s broken.’ Some old saint in the church, you know, still got conviction, says, ‘Our church just gave our pastor a big four or five hundred dollar color TV for Christmas.’ Can you imagine that? It’s a wonder the Lord wouldn’t blow it off the face of the map…It’s a wonder He don’t just say, ‘I’ll just pinch all your heads off right now.’ Wasting God’s money! Of course I’ll tell you why they gave it. The old boy will quit preaching against it!…Let’s get to one thing that’s killing the preachers, hear? Let’s get at the thing that’s killing the church members today…Let’s talk about the thing that’s eating people up…Let’s talk about the biggest idol America’s got right now, see? A preacher, pastor of a First Baptist Church in the city…he had driven 75 miles to get to the old fashioned revival service. Said he had a wonderful time…He wrote me a letter and said, ‘Brother Roloff, that settled it for us. We’ve been thinking about getting a TV set; we’ll never get it! We made up our minds tonight.’ A few weeks after that I went up there to preach a meeting and walked in his living room. He said, ‘There it is.’ I said, ‘Yep. I noticed it’. He said, ‘I want you to know though, that I didn’t buy it. He said, ‘Eleven deacons bought it and brought it over here and gave it to me.’ I said, ‘You must have quit preaching against it. If you’d been preaching like you ought to, if you had the conviction like you use to have when you wrote me that letter, you’d busted a hole and hung it around the [deacon] chairman’s neck and told him to haul it’! I’m just asking you, do you want God to keep you? If you do, get out of the world!! Quit living like the Devil and his crowd! If you can be entertained by that filth and immorality…you’re backslidden and may not even know it…I’ve never received one letter. This is 100%. I’ve never received one letter that said, ‘Brother Roloff, I believe you misled us. You got us all stirred up one night…My husband and I went home and we couldn’t sleep. We got up and we decided [to get rid of our TV]…But you know, since our television set is gone, we just can’t pray like we used to…I just don’t feel like reading my Bible. When I had my television set it just reminded me to pray and read my Bible, and it made me a soul winner..’ What are you laughing about? That sounds preposterous and silly and absurd doesn’t it?…Just the opposite has been so. Ah, those sweet letters! I can see the tear drops…’Brother Roloff, we’re back to God now. Our old family altar’s got the heat back in it. We’ve got the fires burning again… My little children are more obedient…My husband has time to talk with me. And we read the Bible together…It’s been all good’…Preachers! Don’t leave it up to the people. Tell them what the Bible says about it. Mothers and Daddies!…[Quit] letting your home be run by your bunch of children. They haven’t got any sense…They’re too young….If you’re forty years old and they’re about fifteen, my soul! You ought to have at least three times as much sense as they’ve got!…Keep yourselves from idols.” (Lester Rollof, The Family Altar Program: “Who Does the Keeping?”)

  17. I like the story of “The Stranger”. It is very true and TV is responsible for a lot of the decrease in morals and increase of violence and new age stuff.
    We watch very little and well chosen programmes but my concern is for children who drink in hours of that terrible stuff, yes even have one of those “strangers” in their bedroom.
    In the past I have prayed for many little members of Kids Church who were plagued by nightmares and full of fears. The parents had no idea of the cause of their odd behavours.

    I’m sure it would help our Society if we would take greater care of what goes into our children’s minds.
    Keep praying!!

  18. tenderwarrior Oct 30th 2010

    Thanks Jack for sharing Lester Rollof’s words they are right on.

    Those that think it is “legalistic” to preach against evil and worldly lifestyles must most assuredly be harboring sin in their heart. Why else would they be offended when the “facts” and “truth” merge to declare “come out from among them and be ye seperate….and I will receive you.” The day of tickle my ear preaching must end. We must take the “axe to the root” and preach righteous living. If you are a preacher you are not going to answer to the those crying legalism but to a holy God.

    Thanks for the article Andrew

  19. Esther Oct 31st 2010

    I grew up in a home where we never had a TV, and I am SO GLAD! I would however watch things over my nan’s which still give me nightmares today. I am 29 now, and have chosen to never have a TV of my own. Many people made me feel that you’re a weirdo not to have a TV – but if that is the only price to pay, it’s nowhere near as high as it could be for what it’s worth.

    A friend in work told me that if I watched more TV I wouldn’t be so shocked at [sin]. I don’t want to be desentisized from sin! How many of us have become so used to things (selected TV content included) that we don’t even realise they are sinful?

    I’m grateful for parents who kept me from the TV at home when I would have chosen otherwise.

  20. HappyTrails Oct 31st 2010

    Esther says:

    “A friend in work told me that if I watched more TV I wouldn’t be so shocked at [sin]. I don’t want to be desentisized from sin! How many of us have become so used to things (selected TV content included) that we don’t even realise they are sinful?”


  21. Raheli Oct 31st 2010

    I got rid of my TV over 2 years ago and have not regretted it for a moment – indeed I wish I’d done it sooner. It might have saved my marriage. My now ex-husband has been led astray and I’ll not bore you with all the gory details, save to say that he no longer follows Yeshua, having departed to pursue worldly pleasures. It’s a sign of the times that we are in, men being lovers of selves and satisfying their every whim, spending money that they haven’t got on things they don’t need, etc. etc. I’ve recently started at Bible college and am amazed at the number of Christians wearing designer clothes with matching shoes and handbags (where appropriate). Also the number of men wearing jeans at ‘half-mast’, showing their Calvin Kleins! I’m amazed that so-called believers even want to follow the trends of this godless world system!

    I recently asked members of my fellowship what TV programmes they watched. Many of them admitted to being addicted to soap-operas. No wonder we have people in the church living-together and producing children outside of marriage, getting drunk, fighting, etc. etc. The Lord must be weeping at the state of the church!

    Lord help us to tear down the idols in our lives (including popular ‘gods’ like footballers and pop stars). What kind of salt and light are we if we are no different from the world?

    God help us to repent and put His Kingdom first in our lives. Lord we need your refining fire to consume the dross. Please help us Lord.

  22. Roger Souden Oct 31st 2010

    Raheli – you said:
    The Lord must be weeping at the state of the church!

    Lord help us to tear down the idols in our lives (including popular ‘gods’ like footballers and pop stars). What kind of salt and light are we if we are no different from the world?

    God help us to repent and put His Kingdom first in our lives. Lord we need your refining fire to consume the dross. Please help us Lord.

    Me: ..and I say Amen and Amen – I am in agreement with you.

    In Christ Jesus,

  23. watchful Oct 31st 2010

    A post by Happy Trails copied and pasted from the forum, hoping she won’t mind, that just seems so very appropriate for this thread:
    God has been teaching me HIS meaning of REPENTANCE lately.

    He has been showing me that it is a process of actual purging of idols, gods, demons, and then the FINAL turning from our sins and our being lord/master of our own life and surrendering (as an enemy does to their victor)to God Almighty as our MASTER/LORD/RULER/KING.


    I can say amen to this because this is what I’ve been experiencing in a very literal way, the Lord removing and cleansing me of the idols, big and small, in my life including TV – and I’m not done yet! There are even more subtle/hidden, more destructive idols in our lives that need the Holy Spirit to reveal. We’re like one of those big hot air balloons held to the ground by several tethers, and one by one the Lord wacks at a tether with His sword that holds us to the earth/world until finally we are free of all that tethers and binds us to this fallen world – free to fly where and how His Wind blows. “The things of earth grow strangely dim”, as the song says. Also like what is said here about surrendering as to a victorious King – may He thoroughly ‘vanquish’ us all!

  24. Julia Jurado de B. Nov 1st 2010

    I certainly agree with the majority–the television is an idol that replaces fellowship with our Savior and Master Jesus Christ. I keep one in the house for an occasional instructional video, but we have had victory over this sinful practice. Now the InterNet is ranking above the television in its use, but again we have to have the same convictions and refrain some seeking the world and only gleam what is useful and beneficial for our lives. Yes, we are in a constant spiritual warfare, but having the Holy Spirit guiding our lifestyles–we have the weapons to overcome all sin. As the Scriptures teach, “We will not let sin take dominion over us.” Romans 7:14

    But if you must get rid of the television and InterNet to bring holiness into your lives–then do it. There are plenty of InterNet outlets that are reasonable to use such as libraries, if you need to do research, homework, etc I live in Mexico and “Christians” here are also seeing the dangers of the InterNet and are publicly speaking against the InterNet addictions that are affecting their family´s fellowship. Incidentally for those who are interested in what we really happening in Mexico, I can tell you from my experiences in ministry over here; that people in Mexico are seeking God as never before and thousands are accepting Jesus as their Savior on weekly basis particularly in the Northern part of Mexico.

    Satan´s armies are making it difficult for the people and using the drug lord situation as an avenue for the anti-christ to establish his end time kingdom as each country has its only particular agenda. For the most part the average Mexican is working and struggling to keep the food on the table and is not involved in the drug wars anymore than the average person is in any country. Remember satan hosts will use whatever he can in these days to destabilize the countries and depopulate. Reminder to follow Christ not the propaganda of hate against the human race that the satanic inspired media broadcasts through the airwaves daily. Ephesians 6

  25. How are we preparing the next generation to deal with secular humanism, if we isolate them away from the world as it surrounds them?

    The role of the adult/parent is to teach the children to discern that which comes from the Kingdom of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and that which comes from the kingdom of deception. DISCERN!

    We taught our children that God gave them “free will” to choose. God gave them eyes, ears and mouths. With your will, you can choose to look at things that will build up “life” in your spirit, soul (mind/will/emotion) and body thru’ which to honour God your Creator, or with your will you can choose to look at things that will bring about “death” and destroy your spirit, soul and body. With your ears, you can choose to hear things that will build you up, or destroy you. With your mouth you can choose to speak those things that bring “life” to you and those who hear you, or you can choose to speak “death, despair and destruction”. God has said, “you choose –“. God does not choose for you. In fact, God does not enter where He is not invited.

    Thus, is it not the parent’s role to “mediate” what their children see,hear and speak about? What does the word “mediate” mean? It means “to be the medium for conveying, communicating” meaning. A parent then must see/hear with the children, and explain what they are seeing/hearing means in terms of the family values/virtues. It is our job as the adults/parents to help our children learn to discern, and to learn the words needed in the debate with “others” why I choose to follow what an infallible God has asked of me instead of what fallible mankind asks of me. This means “self-sacrifice” for the adult/parent in order to prepare the child to become ab adult who can discern between good and evil; right and wrong.

    Of course, having children these days, seems to be an almost “mindless” event. Lots of “feel good” versus respectful abstinence. When these mindlessly spawned children encroach upon the self centeredness of the parent, then “mediation” takes a secondary seat to the “me, myself and I” who has reared it’s selfish head.

    Like everything else about the “faith walk” while of this world yet not in this world, mediating for our children requires self-control/self-discipline. Are we who are members of the family of God, willing to offer ourselves in this “sacrifice of praise”?

    Or will we just ban the things of this world, protecting our children from the reality of what surrounds them? What then will we do when they rebel?

    And rebel they will! It is their modus operandi during their adolescent years. What have we, in our banning everything, given them as ammunition to rebel against?

    The rebellion will be against us having banned the “forbidden” things!

    For example, when God forbade Adam to eat from the trees of life, and the knowledge of good and evil — do you suppose He knew that Adam (Eve) would be tempted to eat? Do you think that was part of His plan? Or, do you think He needed a way to introduce the concept of “death”, and his “redemption/salvation” plan in some way?

    What they did do, was rebel against the authority of God in their lives, they took and ate, and were introduced to the concepts of “death”, of “work by the sweat of your brow” in order to eat, and “travail in childbirth”, as well as redemption/salvation/restoration.

    Rebellion against authority in our lives has consequences — both positive and negative. These consequences require us to be either redeemed back into for the first born, or saved from, and into, for the adoptee.

    Accepting the covering of the blood of the Lamb Who was slain, for our atonement, painting the doorposts and lintel of our hearts with this blood, ensures that the angel of death will passover us, granting us eternal life!

    Accepting my adoption, through grace, by the Lamb Who is a first-born member of the family of God, I am now a member of this family, as a gentile adoptee.

  26. The tv is just another peice of technology. The entertainment industry is the author of the filth and the tv is the scapegoat. There is a growing number of voices in Australia that are protesting against the entertainment industry and it’s effect on the children, especially in the area of music videos and the lyrics.

    I saw a post about the pulpit being to blame, not the tv. I never really noticed that one before it was pointed out, so thank you Jeri.

  27. HappyTrails Nov 1st 2010

    Moll….I am a CHILD of God, and He is my Father.




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  29. tenderwarrior Nov 1st 2010

    Great reply Happytrails.

    If we take Moll’s thought to the logical conclusion then we should let them watch pornograpy or participate in Satanic rituals so that we can “teach” them what is right. The problem is that the Bible never endorses such folly,just as Moll had no scriptures to back up such a position. I hear these comments all the time and my answer is always the same, “my children are exposed to far too much evil in the world that I don’t need to allow it in the home to have a teachable moment with them.” The home like the church should be a sanctuary from all the filth of the world. And the myth that if we raise our children to live holy that we will somehow lose them is just that a myth from the abyss.

  30. devon Nov 1st 2010